Thomas Quick in Wigan

Hi,
Sorry I posted under someone else's thread. ( just call me dim )

I am looking for a Thomas Quick born in Liverpool in 1919 and died in Millers Lane, Platt Bridge, Wigan this was in 1977

He worked on the railway but I have no idea which company?

Any help or advice I would greatly appreciate.

Many thanks.

what is it you want to know i have access to the census

Do you mean ‘Census’?

Hi Winnie,

In regard of Thomas Quick I know he was born in 1920 in Litherland, Liverpool, England.
I don't know were he was for the 1921 census?
I cannot find him on the 1939 register ( which everyone had to register on )?
I cannot find a marriage for him or any children?

I know he died on the 27th November, 1977 he lived at 117 Millers Lane, Platt Bridge, Wigan.
I was told this by another family member which was sometime ago, unfortunately they are not able to confirm this now, due to age.
Any help that you can give me, I would really appreciate.

Regards,
Pauline.

Thomas Quick in 1921
1921 Census Of England & Wales
Workhouse,107, Rice Lane, Walton, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire, England

John Quick in 1921
1921 Census Of England & Wales
45, Hands Street, Litherland, Litherland, Lancashire, England living with a lloyd family

his mother died in the same workhouse in 1921 and is buried in Ford cemetery

Name Letitia Quick
Death Age 26
Birth Date abt 1895
Death Date 1921
Burial Date 20 Jul 1921
Burial Place Ford Cemetery, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

He died at 117 Millers lane ,Platt Bridge sorry i see you already have that info !!

Hi TONKER
Do you know which is best census to buy ? G.B.

Thomas Quick was my uncle. The address on Millers Lane was my grandmothers' home. We always called him Sam. He never married, never had children.

Hi Winnie,

Thank you for your marvellous help - my brain is ticking

mrs m I don't know what to say we are related - I am so pleased to be in contact with you

I have lots to tell you and I am sure you have as well?

Thomas Quick's mother Letitia/Celia Quick nee Kirby was a sister to my Grandad Richard Kirby.


What was your Grandmother's name?

What can you tell me about Thomas / Sam?

Where railway did he work for? What was his job?

What did he die of?

I cannot wait to hear from you so I can share my information with you

Kindest regards,
Pauline

willowandpepper don't think we are related. My grandparents arrived in Wigan in 1926, grandad was a coal miner. I don't know exactly when, but Sam made good friends with Charlie Mcguigan (one of my uncles), who took Sam home with him at a young age. And there Sam stayed for the rest of his life. He passed away from emphysema I believe, he was a heavy smoker. His final resting place is unknown to us, because there's no-one left to ask. Unofficially my grandmother adopted him. But I've always known him as my uncle and a McGuigan.

As far as I remember, he worked at Springview, cleaning trains, maintaining the yard etc. He did serve in the military during WW2, just as his 5 adopted brothers did, unknown what branch. I think he was in N Africa for a time, but don't quote me on that. Sam never spoke much about his life, although we believe he had no other family that we knew of. Perhaps he didn't know he had family either. He was very soft spoken, reddish sandy hair, crystal blue eyes.

I'll speak with my brother, maybe he remembers more than I do. He'll be surprised

Deaths Dec 1977 WIGAN
DATE OF BIRTH THOMAS QUICK 17 OCTOBER 1919

Hi mrs m,

Your Grandmother but have been a lovely woman to adopt all of those boys

Thomas Quick in my family tree was born on the 4th March 1920 in Litherland, Liverpool.

He was in the workhouse with his mother Letitia Quick - she died in 1921 when Thomas was 7mths old. His father left for Canada and did not come back.

So basically he was an orphan - I don't know at what age he left the workhouse probably about 14 yrs?

Can I ask who registered his death?

Do you know his birthday?

Did he sound like he had come from the Wigan area?

Kind regards

Hello again willowandpepper,
My gran, Annie McGuigan, took him in when Sam was still a young boy, maybe 14, but he was working when he got took in. he just became another of her natural sons, lol. They lived at 16 Garden Street in Scholes at that time before it all got torn down.

I'm thinking my uncle Charlie or my gran would have registered his death. I know he's not buried with the McGuigans. Never been able to find out where. I think you have the right birthday. Yes, he very much sounded like a Wiganer. Have spoken with my brother and he thinks Sam was in the Army and stationed in Gibraltar.

We may have a photo somewhere. Are you on Facebook?

Hi gaffer, Thank you for the information in regard of a Thmas Quick dying in 1977

Hi mrs m

Brilliant idea in regard of photograph. I would love to see it.

I also have a photograph of his brother John Quick - he was a
nightwatchman for a army camp in WW2. Well hopefully they are brothers

Would be good to compare and see if there is a likeness??

What do you think about what gaffer mentioned about Thomas Quick who died in 1977 - and his birth date is 17th October 1919.

On the birth certificate that I have for Thomas Quick it says 4th March1920

Such a mystery are they the same person?

Look forward to hearing what you think

willowandpepper
In one post above you said born in 1919, and in another 1920. Being in the US, I have a hard time accessing UK records but I'll try to find out.

Name Thomas Quick
Registration Date Jan 1920
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district West Derby
Inferred County Lancashire
Mother's Maiden Name Kirby

Name Annie McGuigan
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 5 Feb 1899
Residence Date 1939
Address 9 Garden Street
Residence Place Wigan, Lancashire, England
Occupation Unpaid Domestic Duties Household Members (Name) Age
Charles McGuigan Sr
42
This record is officially closed.
Charles McGuigan Jr
17
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
Annie McGuigan 40

Marciano
Marciano Anne 74 yrs Wigan Infirmary 28-Mar 2007 (Crem Rems.)
117, Millers Lane, Platt Bridge 21-80 R C
McCuigan
McCuigan John 61 yrs 40 Ribble Rd. Platt Bridge Feb. 1988 Widower (Crem Rems.) 34405 21-80 R C
McGuigan
McGuigan Charles 66 yrs Whelley Hospital 13-Dec 1962 Retired Miner
16, Garden St. 21-80 R C
McGuigan James 44 yrs Wigan Infirmary 24-Jul 1969 Sawyer
7, Browning Ave. Wors. Mes. 21-80 R C
McGuigan Annie 88 yrs Leigh Infirmary 17-Nov 1987 Widow
117, Millers Lane, Platt Bridge 21-80 R C
McGuigan Charles J. 66 yrs Wigan Hospice 02-Nov 1988 (Crem Rems.)
117, Millers Lane, Platt Bridge 21-80 R C
McGuigan Mathew J. 68 yrs South Cleveland Hosp. M/cr. 25-Nov 1988 (Crem Rems.)
2, Newham Pk. Hook, Hamps

I have found a tree on Ancestry with all the above in it but no mention of thomas / sam . loads of photos of the rest of the family though

Hi Winnie, Thank you for all of this information amazing

mrs m In regard of the birth of Thomas Quick I have his birth certificate saying he was born on the 4th March 1920 Mother Letitia Kirby

But gaffer has mentiond the death of a Thomas Quick in Wigan in 1977 - it also mentions that his birth date was 17th October 1919

I don't know if they are the same person? I really hope that is the case

But they could be two different Thomas Quicks?

Kind regards

Name Thomas Quick
Death Date 27 Nov 1977
Death Place Platt Bridge Wigan
Probate Date 23 Jan 1978
Probate Registry Liverpool the address for this probate is 117 Millers lane ,Platt Bridge

Annie Lindsay
1899–1987
BIRTH 5 FEB. 1899 • 35 Forrest Place Blantyre

DEATH NOV 1987 • Wigan, England, United Kingdom Spouse and children

Charles McGuigan
1896–1963


Matthew McGuigan
1920–1988


Charles McGuigan
1922–1988


James McGuigan
1924–1969


John McGuigan
1926–1988


Gerard John McGuigan
1929–1976


Anne McGuigan
1932–2007





Who ever the lady who has this tree it seems i am related as we have a DNA match !!!!!!! and she is from Australia

Matthew Lindsay
1876–1955
BIRTH 26 SEPTEMBER 1876 • Baird's Square, Bothwell

DEATH MAR 1955 • Ince, Lancashire, England

Common DNA Ancestor

Complete

Direct Ancestor


so i am related to Annie Lindsay/McGuigan as this is her father above, i have no idea how i am related as i dont have them in my tree

Hi winnie,

Thank you for the information in regard of the death of Thomas Quick

So pleased for you finding your dna connection

It is really good when you connect with someone new, lots of new things to discover enjoy!!!

Kind regards

Hello Winnie
Thanks for the info, they are all my family members. The lady in Australia is also a family member.

Annie Lindsay/Mcguigan is my grandmother and Matthew is my great grandfather. And if you are related to the lady in Australia, would you be related to me also? The lady (her maiden name was George) in Australia is my mothers' (Anne Marciano)cousin. How many other surprises will pop up?

willowandpepper,
So sorry your thread got a bit sidetracked.

Don't think Sam/Thomas was 7 months old when Leticia passed. March 1920 to July 1921, makes him 16-17 months old. And 4 months older going by gaffers birth date in Oct 1919. i think the 1919 date is an error, at least on BMD

Hi mrs m

No problem, I am so glad for you that you have found a family connection.

Your right my calculation in reegard of Thomas's age was wrong. He would have been 16 - 17 months old as you say.

I am glad that you think that the age mentioned on the BMD is wrong - I also think that.

So on that assumption I think my Thomas Quick is Sam??

Now I am wondering why he would call himself Sam?

Would you happen to know the names of any local churches were Thomas Quick / Sam may have been buried?

Thank you for any ideas you may have

Kind regards,

Hi willowandpapper,
Well, Winnie has certainly caught our attention. I hope she can figure out the connection to the Lindsays.

Yes, I think my Sam and your Thomas are the same and March 1920 birthday being correct. Does the birth certificate only show Thomas? No middle name? Why Sam? I've asked that all my life, lol. I wonder why he never shows on any of the registries as a lodger or whatever at none of the addresses he lived at.

He didn't pass away at home on Millers Lane, I believe it was Leigh Hospice back then. I am pretty sure he was cremated, but no idea where his ashes are. Don't know how to find out either. I'm thinking my uncle Charlie would have made the cremation arrangements at Ince. Maybe a mass at St Marys in Platt Bridge.

Hi mrs m,

Sorry I have not replied sooner, been working on my allotment while the weather is good.

Back to your questions above

On his birth certificate it just gives his name of Thomas Quick. His father was called Thomas Ellis Quick and they lived at 45 Hands Street, Litherland.

But unfortunately in 1921 Letitia Quick his mother ended up in the workhouse with Thomas. I do not know what happened to Thomas after his mother died. Did he stay there unitl he was able to be in full-time employment.
There was no mention in the family of someone called Sam either?

Do you have any other addresses that he may have lived at?

Did he go on holiday at any time or disappear for a few days??

I ask this because he had a brother called John Quick
who was born in 1918 - but he passed away in 1950.













I have been searching for Thomas Quick for years and to be in contact with you is amazing, even though we are not blood related. To actually be in contact with somone who knew Thomas - it takes my breath away[:t

What other addresses is he connected with?

Look forward to your reply

Kind regards

Hello willowandpepper,
I never remember him going on holiday or taking time for himself. Always seemed content to be at home. He never mentioned having brother, just that he was orphaned.

Addresses I remember (I'm 68 so bear with me)
9 Garden St, Scholes
16 Garden St, Scholes
Worsley Mesnes (I'll ask my brother about this one)
67 Sefton Rd, Goose Green

I have a pic of Sam sent to me on WhatsApp. I have no idea how to post it on here. Are you on Facebook or Messenger?

Hi mrs m,

Thomas was an orphan his mother died in 1921 in the workhouse. His father emigrated to Canada in 1926 and he died in Canada in 1938 and as far as I know he never came back to see Thomas and John.

I am hoping to find out how long he stayed in the workouse maybe there will be some record of him?

If he stayed till 13 - 14 yrs old he would think of himself as an orphan.

I am on Facebook - but I don't have a clue how to send a picture. Any help I would appreciate

Kind regards,

hello again.
Send me a friend request

Hi,

I have sent a friend request I hope I have done it right?

Let me know if you have recieved it? I have not done this before.

Kind regards,

Yes, I accepted and posted the picture to your page. He would have been 30 or 32.

Did his brother live in Wigan?

Hi mrs m

Thank you for the picture of Thomas Quick/Sam

Have you got the picture of John yet?

Let me know if you have it or not?

I think they do look alike - especially around the mouth and chin area[:

I look forward to your reply

Hello willowandpepper
Yes, I’ve just seen the pic of John. I see similarities also. Where did he live? It’s so sad they never reunited.

Hi mrs m,

I am glad that you think they are similar in looks - so we are correct in thinking your Thomas Quick/Sam - is my Thomas Quick.

John Quick lived in Wiltshire but he died young at aged 32 yrs. He was knocked off his bicycle and died 3 weeks later.

Many thanks

Yes, willowandpepper, I'm sure Sam and Thomas are one in the same. Can see Sam/Thomas in John. So glad we made that connection. He was a such a good kind person. I'm still searching for one other photo of him, and when I find, I will definitely share.

Hi mrs m

I will be so glad to have any other photographs of Thomas/Sam that you may find in the future.

I am going to try and find a burial for Thomas/Sam
I don't know how long this will take or even be successful.

But I never thought I would be in contact with someone who knew Thomas/Sam.

So fingers crossed.

Kind regards